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FlameTV
15:30 27/09/10
Posts: 9

New Series of BBC 1's Don't Get Done, Get Dom

02075987312 Consumer champion Dominic Littlewood is back for another series of the BBC show Don't Get Done Get Dom. Have you been treated unfairly by a company or organisation? Maybe youï¿½ve tried complaining, but feel like youï¿½re getting nowhere ï¿½ or perhaps you donï¿½t know where to begin? Dom wants to help you. Email me with details to [email protected] or call 0207 598 7312

FlameTV
15:18 27/09/10
Posts: 9

New Series of BBC 1's Don't Get Done, Get Dom

02075987312 Consumer champion Dominic Littlewood is back for another series of the BBC show Don't Get Done Get Dom. Have you been treated unfairly by a company or organisation? Maybe youï¿½ve tried complaining, but feel like youï¿½re getting nowhere ï¿½ or perhaps you donï¿½t know where to begin? Dom wants to help you. Email me with details to [email protected] or call 0207 598 7312

manny
22:41 02/06/10
Posts: 1

Re: annoying adult texts

09083137002

At 13:23 01/06/10, manny wrote:

09083137002 hi guys im getting texts from 07787095113 when i ring this its allways on answerphone and belongs to vodafone. the texts which i received

Direct dial into DIRTY stories and HOT luv action Call anytme on 09083137002 ROXY

This message free
+18only Firstsound
cs 08444994758 ï¿½1.50 per minute

ive rang the customer support line so many times to remove my number from the automated service but still get them. do you think im getting them from a company called forstsound? anyone have any contact details for them please? any help will be appreciated. thanks.

PhonepayPlus has the following information about the premium rate number 09083137002.

The number offers an Adult Content service. This is promoted through various sources including magazines, the internet and television and you use it with your telephone or mobile phone.
This service costs ï¿½1.50 per minute (plus any phone network surcharges - check with your phone company for full details).
If you would like to find out more about this service you should contact the company listed below.

First Sound Ltd
213 St John Street
London
EC1V 4LY
0207 608 1765

manny
13:23 01/06/10
Posts: 1

annoying adult texts

09083137002 hi guys im getting texts from 07787095113 when i ring this its allways on answerphone and belongs to vodafone. the texts which i received Direct dial into DIRTY stories and HOT luv action Call anytme on 09083137002 ROXY This message free +18only Firstsound cs 08444994758 ï¿½1.50 per minute ive rang the customer support line so many times to remove my number from the automated service but still get them. do you think im getting them from a company called forstsound? anyone have any contact details for them please? any help will be appreciated. thanks. Last edited by manny on 15:45 01/06/10; edited 2 times in total

manny
13:15 01/06/10
Posts: 1

annoying adult texts

09083137002 hi guys im getting texts from 07787095113 when i ring this its allways on answerphone and belongs to vodafone. the texts which i received Direct dial into DIRTY stories and HOT luv action Call anytme on 09083137002 ROXY This message free +18only Firstsound cs 08444994758 ï¿½1.50 per minute ive rang the customer support line so many times to remove my number from the automated service but still get them. do you think im getting them from a company called forstsound? anyone have any contact details for them please? any help will be appreciated. thanks.

reeftv
9:46 12/05/10
Posts: 5

BRAND NEW BBC CONSUMER SHOW NEEDS YOU!

02075392026 DID YOUR HOLIDAY NOT LOOK ANYTHING LIKE IT DID IN THE BROCHURE? HAS YOUR BROADBAND COMPANY OVERCHARGED YOU? IN FACT DO YOU FEEL CHEATED OUT OF MONEY BY ANY COMPANY? Well we might be able to help. We want to hear your stories for a brand new BBC show, where celebrity experts will be helping resolve consumer complaints and grievances. On Saturday 22nd May from 10am we are inviting you to come down to our CONSUMER ROADSHOW at Whiteleys Shopping Centre, Queensway, London, W2 4YN (Nearest tubes: Bayswater or Queensway). Our experts will be meeting members of the public who feel they have been treated unfairly as a consumer and are seeking compensation. We can dish out advice, and our celebrity experts will be looking to take some cases on themselves to guarantee your money back. So donï¿½t suffer in silence anymore ï¿½ come on down with your evidence (letters, photos, or anything that backs up your case). It may just be worth your while. Please drop us a line with your stories to [email protected] or call us on 0207 539 2026.

Ant2009
12:10 27/03/10
Posts: 1

Re: +447500 482928

07743576477 Re "+447500 482928" posted by iandsmith at 14:38 21/01/10 ...

I've received the same message (with slight variations) from +447743576477, +447719396675 and +447517563271, the latest on 26/3/2010:

Quote:

FREEMSG: Our records indicate you may be entitled to 3750 pounds for the Accident you had. To claim for free reply with YES to this msg. To opt out text STOP

I'd love to know who this company is and where they got my number from (assuming they're not just sending to random numbers).

http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/07743576477
http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/07719396675
http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/07517563271

quill
21:30 25/02/10
Posts: 7

T-mobile and Virgin Mobile phantom charges

'700xxxxxx' http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Calls.aspx/700 most of the above complaints appear to concern children! What percentage are T-mobile and Virgin Mobile pocketing and when the hell is this Government and Ofcom going to get a grip of this damn industry and the excuse for 'consumer protection' Phonepayplus? Last edited by quill on 13:03 26/02/10; edited 4 times in total

warweezil Site Admin
14:10 30/01/10
Posts: 273

Re: Talent Text - 88080

88080 Re "Talent Text - 88080" posted by Coolcakes at 10:00 30/01/10 ... 88080 seems to be controlled by MX Telecom 15th Floor 389 Chiswick High Road London W4 4AL 0844 824 7441 [email protected]. If the Contact number isn't working and you are being charged for these messages then it is time to make a complaint to Phonepayplus.

Coolcakes
10:00 30/01/10
Posts: 16777215

Talent Text - 88080

88080 "Brand new music show is currently looking for a new presenter email resumes to [email protected] ref 4728 to 88080." I've text STOP and STOP ALL to numerous numbers given on the website and I'm still getting texts which are costing me. On the Talent Text website, the help phone number is not a real number! Thanks.

iandsmith
14:38 21/01/10
Posts: 3

+447500 482928

FREEMSG: Our records indicate you may be entitled to 3750 pounds for the Accident you had. To claim for free reply with CLAIM to this msg. To opt out text STOP

dinger
17:34 29/12/09
Posts: 6

Re: 69844 - Antiphony Ltd

At 14:17 15/07/09, dinger wrote:

Had 2 unsolicited Premium rate SMS messages from this number today

The first arrived Just before 2pm

Quote:

Welcome! Please reply with your AGE and GENDER to begin. e.g 24M

Second message 20 mins later

Quote:

Sexy Singles are waiting for you! Text your AGE followed by your GENDER as wither M or F E.G.23F. For gay men text your AGE followed by a G. e.g.23G.

Well in theory that was expensive for Antiphony, a letter arrived today from PhonepayPlus informing us of the decision in respect of my complaint against them in respect of the texts above. They have been found to be in breach of the PhonepayPlus code of practice.

Due to the nature of the breaches the Tribunal imposed the following sanctions:

A Formal Reprimand.
A fine of ï¿½50,000 (comprising ï¿½40,000 in respect of the upheld breaches, with an uplift of ï¿½10,000 in respect of breach history)
There was also a requirement for the Information Provider to seek compliance advice in respect of this and similar chat services (whether or not these incorporated a dating service) within 2 weeks of the publication of this decision and to implement such advice within 2 weeks of it being given.

I wonder if the fine will ever be paid. Considering the lines used by these pests are leased to them, maybe it is time for there to be a joint responsibility for penalty for all involved - even the company leasing out the numbers used. That might focus them a little more sharply on the sort of companies they are dealing with.

I would also point out this is twice this year I have had a successful complaint against this outfit, Why are they not being barred from using the telephone network to pester us with spam about their worthless "services".

Just goes to show its worth complaining. if nothing else it shows PhonepayPlus there is still a problem.

mavdo
10:28 02/12/09
Posts: 18

08453445660

At 10:47 10/09/09, mavdo wrote:

08453445660 "Hi <name>, if you have loans, cards, finance pre April 07 get them legally written off, call 08453445660 or reply YES for callback. txtSTOP2optout"
Allegedly this is from Beneficial Claims...

A response from ICO has arrived... 3 months after I got the text.
Yet another breach of regulation 22; yet another "reminder" letter written and an instruction to suppress my number (I don't want it "suppressed", I want it removed and never again to be re-added. They shouldn't even have it!). So another "they've done wrong, but unfortunately we've got no real teeth, so we've kindly asked them to stop breaking the law" message from ICO.
I find the ICO side with the consumer on the regulations a lot and have the potential to be of real help tidying up this dirty industry, but they really need to be given the powers to actually punish people who blatantly breach regulations (and it would help fund them too!). Companies won't stop doing something that benefits them, even if morally or legally wrong, unless there are consequences to them doing it. If the punishment for robbery was a judge asking someone nicely to stop, would we clear up crime?

quill
20:32 29/11/09
Posts: 7

WIN (Wireless Information Network) Ltd / Venista spam n scam

08706091794 08706091794 85051 82355 84748 83435 83044 http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/08706091794 http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/08706091795 http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/82344 http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/82355 In 2005 the WIN / Venista team were fined for spam and unsolicited debiting from phone accounts. May be Phonepayplus should stop pocketing the fines and start replacing the money to the accounts from where it was taken. 29 April 2005 Fine 10000 27 May 2005 Fine 5000 29 July 2005 Fine 7500 29 July 2005 Fine 10000 15 September 2005 Fine 15000 09 December 2005 Fine 2000 09 December 2005 Fine 500 29 December 2005 Fine 20000 24 March 2006 Fine 30000 07 April 2006 Fine 10000 26 June 2006 Fine 50000 01 August 2006 Fine 10000 14 August 2006 Fine 5000 23 October 2006 Fine 5000 05 December 2006 Fine 1000 02 April 2007 Fine 5000 20 April 2007 Fine 10000 11 June 2007 Fine 5000 09 August 2007 Fine 1000 05 September 2007 Fine 5000 27 September 2007 Fine 15000 27 September 2007 Fine 105000 20 December 2007 Fine 15000 13 May 2008 Fine 7000 05 June 2008 Fine 10000 31 July 2008 Fine 6000 18 December 2008 Fine 25000 03 September 2009 Fine 10000 Last edited by quill on 17:00 30/11/09; edited 4 times in total

thetaylors
10:52 24/11/09
Posts: 0

Xmas 090 - when will PPP stop this

09065173341 Hi, here is the latest 090 advert being distributed by ads and email - aimed at children - and involving Oxygen8 -when will PPP stop this. A personalised letter and toy from Santa for that special child, nephew or niece. Order Line 09065173341 No Credit Card needed. You only pay for the call ï¿½1.50 per minute. Each package will contain: One of five different personalised letters depending on the child’s age and whether or not it is the child’s first Christmas or if the child also has a Christmas birthday. The letter signed by either Santa, Mrs Claus or Rudolph A personalised Certificate A toy as chosen by the sender These items will be delivered in a beautiful Christmas Red envelope, postmarked from the North Pole. The caller will have a list of toys to choose to send the recipient: A Magic Painting Book A Christmas Maze Puzzle A brightly coloured Noise Rattle Each caller will receive a unique reference number for any queries or edits after the call has finished. User Charges: ï¿½1.50 per minute, call lasts approximately 4 to 5 minutes. Note all user charges include VAT Terms & Conditions to Include: All toys subject to availability. Where a particular toy becomes unavailable a similar toy of the same or greater value will be substituted. Last letter posted according to Royal Mail delivery guidelines for 2nd class letters. Service provided by North Downs Telecom Ltd., Heritage House, 79 High Street, Gravesend, Kent DA11 0BH Customer Services 0844 448 1515

dinger
20:51 18/11/09
Posts: 6

Re: SMS spam from +447719396675

At 8:24 31/07/09, numberspy wrote:

No I dont misunderstand at all - I work with the ICO and PPP on many things. There is a memorandum of understanding being formed between them both but the ICO will not intervene if you received a SPAM SMS from a short code - That is outside of their remit so you are wasting your breath and your time with them. If the communication had come via text without a short code, such as a long mobile number, then they would intervene but only if it were non-chargeable. If its chargeable then PPP would look into it.

If the ICO were to get involved all they would do is write a letter and ask the company to stop sending you SMS and remove your number from their database. If they didnt then they would take enforcement action so dont get your hopes up with the ICO.

Another point - it is not chargeable to send a STOP message - It is free apart from whatever your network may charge and that is not the responsibility of the company sending the spam so lets not try and add sauce to the problem - there is no need.

So in relation to the above number that sent you this message here it appears to be a long and non chargeable number so PPP wont get involved - end of!

Had a response from the ICO. I am pleased to report that they took my view that this was a breach of Regulation 22, and have written to Antiphony reminding them of their obligations, and instructing them to take certain actions to prevent a recurrence.

That is what I set out to achieve. They had no reason to have my number which is both ex-directory and TPS registered, I have done all I can to ensure I am not bothered by this crud, and am angry that my number is being circulated, something that I may follow up on.

My view is that companies need to be stopped from spamming our phones by exploiting "loopholes" in any way possible. If the only means of achieving this end is by putting them to the inconvenience of dealing with the ICO, then that is what I will do.

It pays to stand your ground. This traffic is unwelcome and unwanted. We have a right to stop it. Its about time this worthless sector took the hint and ceased the spam. There needs to be far tighter controls on commercially sent SMS Messages including both "Normal" numbers and shortcodes for those companies using - or is that abusing? - the system.

FlameTV
12:30 23/10/09
Posts: 9

Consumer champion Dominic Littlewood is back on the BBC!!!

02075987210 Have you been treated unfairly by a company or organisation? Maybe youï¿½ve tried complaining, but feel like youï¿½re getting nowhere ï¿½ or perhaps you donï¿½t know where to begin? Maybe you've been credit blacklisted through no fault of your own? Has a loan been sold on and the terms have changed leaving you out of pocket? Dom wants to help you. Email me with details to [email protected] or call 0207 598 7210.

mavdo
10:47 10/09/09
Posts: 18



08453445660 "Hi <name>, if you have loans, cards, finance pre April 07 get them legally written off, call 08453445660 or reply YES for callback. txtSTOP2optout" Allegedly this is from Beneficial Claims. I have never asked for this, I don't have old loans, and I always tick boxes (or untick them) for people to not pass on my details. Many people have tried to text stop to this number (according to other websites such as whocallsme.com) and have failed. This message breaks rules on unsolicited electronic communications from the ICO, it also probably breaks financial rules from the FSA regarding trying to get people into IVAs or charging people to implement standard "statute barred" type legislation, and they are alleged to be breaking other rules (or skirting them) by charging people to arrange a loan for them and then never obtaining a loan saying that they were unable to (and did they even try?). There is even an allegation that they are the same company as (the ex) YES loans because they appear to share phone numbers. Allegations above are made on the website below: http://boards.thisismoney.co.uk/tim/threadnonInd.jsp?forum=98&thread=94854 I'd like to know how they got my number AND my name, tho I can't do that without calling them, and I can't report them to ICO without trying to stop this myself first. I think it could be a breach of the DPA.

stratfordles
19:36 07/09/09
Posts: 0



81777 My daughter foolishly sent a message asking for a horiscope to 81777 and started to receive messages back costing ï¿½1.50 a time. Over a couple of hours she accumulated a bill of over ï¿½100. I spoke to the company involved who said that they obeyed all the rules and did nothing wrong. I also phoned Phonepayplus but they say that there is nothing they can do. This 'service' is clearly a rip off and these companies that prey on vunerable people ought to be shut down. Although my daughter is over 18 she has learning difficulties and didn't really understand what she was doing.

stratfordles
19:31 07/09/09
Posts: 0



81777 My daughter foolishly sent a message asking for a horiscope to 81777 and started to receive messages back costing ï¿½1.50 a time. Over a couple of hours she accumulated a bill of over ï¿½100. I spoke to the company involved who said that they obeyed all the rules and did nothing wrong. I also phoned Phonepayplus but they say that there is nothing they can do. This 'service' is clearly a rip off and these companies that prey on vunerable people ought to be shut down. Although my daughter is over 18 she has learning difficulties and didn't really understand what she was doing.

Robbie@home
16:51 09/08/09
Posts: 1



Recieved from +447876227712 Our records indicate you may be entitled to 3750 pounds compensation for the accident you had. To claim for free reply YES to thid msg. 2 opt out txtx STOP.US

numberspy
8:24 31/07/09
Posts: 3

Re: SMS spam from +447719396675

At 23:58 30/07/09, dinger wrote:

Re "Re: SMS spam from +447719396675" posted by numberspy at 9:26 30/07/09 ...

You seem to misunderstand my point that the ICO see a possibility here of proceeding against Antiphony under the Privacy in communications directive. I mentioned TPS registration as in indication that I have done all I can to flag up that I don't wish to receive unsolicited communications of any sort especially not from text scamming companies, and the ICO guy seemed to think that may help strengthen a case. Txt messages to this service are chargeable, it could be held that any text from this company is a marketing communication.

I don't see why I should have to pay to send a message opting out of something I never opted into in the first place. I want them penalised - its that simple. Hopefully the ICO will come through for me along with PhonepayPlus.

The interesting thing is that following a strongly worded letter to antiphony I had a call from one of their people - sadly I wasn't able to take the call following a recent operation, and I don't feel inclined to call a non geo number to discuss their scams.

Its a shame all networks don't provide a facility for customers to bar these scam texts. I DON'T want any short-code crud coming through to my phone. It is time that the networks took on board that I should have the choice to refuse any messages that are chargeable as a matter of right. of course some of the networks don't care as they get a cut from this while wringing their hands and pleading innocence - its time that loophole was closed off.

I want these spammers and scammers kept off of my number. I don't use shortcodes. WHY can I not bar them?

No I dont misunderstand at all - I work with the ICO and PPP on many things. There is a memorandum of understanding being formed between them both but the ICO will not intervene if you received a SPAM SMS from a short code - That is outside of their remit so you are wasting your breath and your time with them. If the communication had come via text without a short code, such as a long mobile number, then they would intervene but only if it were non-chargeable. If its chargeable then PPP would look into it.

If the ICO were to get involved all they would do is write a letter and ask the company to stop sending you SMS and remove your number from their database. If they didnt then they would take enforcement action so dont get your hopes up with the ICO.

Another point - it is not chargeable to send a STOP message - It is free apart from whatever your network may charge and that is not the responsibility of the company sending the spam so lets not try and add sauce to the problem - there is no need.

So in relation to the above number that sent you this message here it appears to be a long and non chargeable number so PPP wont get involved - end of!

It seems to me that the member has been quite clear that an enquiry to the ICO was met with a favourable response - Privacy in communications seems to encompass text messages - after all that is a communication - and if someone wants to try to bring these unsolicited text pests to heal by using that means then more power to them. Either way as they are reporting that the ICO said that they will look into it then I suggest the matter rests there until the ICO respond further - assuming they do. As or "adding sauce", ANY cost to the public to stop unsolicited texts is wrong - no matter who charges it. At the end of the day we should have the right to have unsolicited spam policed - chargeable or not. If nothing else, reports to the ICO at least highlight a problem exists that may need addressing or further legislation to rid us of this nuisance. I think for now this should rest as it is, I don't want to see some sort of flame war erupt between opposing view points - as you said you work with not for so you are not really able to speak for the ICO/PPP with full authority - it is just your opinion, the O/P was reporting information from a call so lets see what happens. - Moderator

dinger
23:58 30/07/09
Posts: 6

Re: SMS spam from +447719396675

Re "Re: SMS spam from +447719396675" posted by numberspy at 9:26 30/07/09 ... You seem to misunderstand my point that the ICO see a possibility here of proceeding against Antiphony under the Privacy in communications directive. I mentioned TPS registration as in indication that I have done all I can to flag up that I don't wish to receive unsolicited communications of any sort especially not from text scamming companies, and the ICO guy seemed to think that may help strengthen a case. Txt messages to this service are chargeable, it could be held that any text from this company is a marketing communication. I don't see why I should have to pay to send a message opting out of something I never opted into in the first place. I want them penalised - its that simple. Hopefully the ICO will come through for me along with PhonepayPlus. The interesting thing is that following a strongly worded letter to antiphony I had a call from one of their people - sadly I wasn't able to take the call following a recent operation, and I don't feel inclined to call a non geo number to discuss their scams. Its a shame all networks don't provide a facility for customers to bar these scam texts. I DON'T want any short-code crud coming through to my phone. It is time that the networks took on board that I should have the choice to refuse any messages that are chargeable as a matter of right. of course some of the networks don't care as they get a cut from this while wringing their hands and pleading innocence - its time that loophole was closed off. I want these spammers and scammers kept off of my number. I don't use shortcodes. WHY can I not bar them?

numberspy
9:26 30/07/09
Posts: 3

Re: SMS spam from +447719396675

Re "SMS spam from +447719396675" posted by Ant2009 at 17:45 17/07/09 ... The TPS can accept the registration of mobile telephone numbers, however it is important to note that this will prevent the receipt of marketing voice calls but not SMS (text) messages. If you wish to stop receiving SMS marketing messages, please send an 'opt-out' request to the company involved.

numberspy
9:25 30/07/09
Posts: 3

Re: 69844 - Antiphony Ltd

Re "69844 - Antiphony Ltd" posted by dinger at 14:17 15/07/09 ... Just so you are aware registration with the TPS does NOT prevent marketing companies sending you text messages - This is the extract from the TPS site: The TPS can accept the registration of mobile telephone numbers, however it is important to note that this will prevent the receipt of marketing voice calls but not SMS (text) messages. If you wish to stop receiving SMS marketing messages, please send an 'opt-out' request to the company involved.

mavdo
12:02 23/07/09
Posts: 18

Re: SMS spam from +447719396675

07719385424 07719385424

At 17:45 17/07/09, Ant2009 wrote:

Unsolicited text received yesterday:

Quote:

Our records indicate u maybe entitled to 5000 pounds in compensation for the Accident you had. To claim 4 free reply with CLAIM to this msg. 2 stop txt STOP

From:+447719396675
Date: 16/07/2009
Time: 12:46pm

My phone number is TPS registered and I haven't had any accidents! I like the bad grammar and the complete lack of company name - do they really expect people to think this is genuine?

Any idea where this came from?

This is an unsolicited electronic marketing campaign and as such falls under direct governance of the ICO. Not only is sending unsolicited messages illegal, they do not provide a company name, or address, which is against the rules. Unfortunately, for them to act you need to know who it is from.

There are many companies that are offering this service online (ie sending CLAIM to a given number). But no numbers match that provided.

You could try sending STOP, but that is like responding to junk mail - never advised.

I would report it to ICO using the online complaint form, and see if they can trace it. If you get any more and they slip up (just as a loan company did for me) you might be able to update the case with a company name.

The same message has been seen arriving from 07719385424, 07542120021, 07719396672, 07719396644, 07719396631, 07797800425, 07598933113, 07751739661, 07957427718, 07957427637, 07542905828, 07787646936, 07849031796, 07768151835, 07787044999, 07542119158, 07542120417, 07719369570, and 07719396604
(source - whocallsme.com)
Ensure you mention this when complaining to the ICO, it adds serious weight to your complaint.

Last edited by mavdo on 13:04 23/07/09; edited 2 times in total

Ant2009
17:45 17/07/09
Posts: 1

SMS spam from +447719396675

Unsolicited text received yesterday:

Quote:

Our records indicate u maybe entitled to 5000 pounds in compensation for the Accident you had. To claim 4 free reply with CLAIM to this msg. 2 stop txt STOP

From:+447719396675
Date: 16/07/2009
Time: 12:46pm

My phone number is TPS registered and I haven't had any accidents! I like the bad grammar and the complete lack of company name - do they really expect people to think this is genuine?

Any idea where this came from?

dinger
14:17 15/07/09
Posts: 6

69844 - Antiphony Ltd

Had 2 unsolicited Premium rate SMS messages from this number today

The first arrived Just before 2pm

Quote:

Welcome! Please reply with your AGE and GENDER to begin. e.g 24M

Second message 20 mins later

Quote:

Sexy Singles are waiting for you! Text your AGE followed by your GENDER as wither M or F E.G.23F. For gay men text your AGE followed by a G. e.g.23G.

Stop command sent at 14.20 but no response so far.
Have just made 2 on-line reports to Phonepayplus. Im not spending money calling Antiphony, I will be putting my demand for a refund in writing to them, with the threat of action in the small claims court if necessary. I am TPS registered and do not subscribe to any premium rate SMS services.

Also had an interesting conversation with the Information Commissioners Office, who seem inclined to treat this as a "marketing call" and as my number is TPS registered, the guy I spoke to feels that it falls within their remit as a breach of the Privacy in Communcations Directive.

*Edit* I just looked back at my first post here over 2 years ago, that was about sms spam from this company.

quill
13:31 02/07/09
Posts: 7

Ongoing Cheers International 07 missed call scams

07033394449 Re "" posted by warweezil at 12:55 11/06/09 ... http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Calls.aspx/070/m http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/07033394449 http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/07033356211 http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/07033331735 http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/07033333198 http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/07033373127 http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/07033314083 http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/07033365411 http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/07033351707 http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/07033337437 http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/07033327555 http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/070333/2 9360 THE LONDON GAZETTE TUESDAY 2 JUNE 2009 CHEERS INTERNATIONAL TELECOM LIMITED Notice is hereby given that Meetings of the Members and Creditors of Cheers International Telecom Limited (in Liquidation) will be held at 10.00 am and 10.30 am respectively, on Thursday 2 July 2009 at the offices of SFP, 9 Ensign House, Admirals Way, Marsh Wall, London E14 9XQ. so if the useless ******** at Phonepayplus decide to 'fine' them (again) and order refunds for the victims they will have to stand in line at the Liquidators.

warweezil Site Admin
12:55 11/06/09
Posts: 273

At 17:47 10/06/09, mavdo wrote:

They say they'll disconnect them immediately if regulations are broken. They say that....

I had two separate operators of Cheers lines try to pull this one on me recently, I didn't try calling back as I am very aware of this Fraud (lets call it for what it is). I chose not to rely on Cheers, but went the Phonepayplus and lodged formal complaints about both numbers, some weeks later both complaints were upheld.

Quote:

Adjudication: The case went before a tribunal for adjudication and its decision was that the service was in breach of the Code of Practice. Due to the nature of the breaches, the Tribunal imposed the following sanctions.
A formal Repremand A fine of ï¿½20,000 A bar on the service and all numbers providing access to the service unless and until the service is considered to be compliant by PhonepayPlus or for a period of 12 months whichever is longer. The Tribunal doubted whether the service could ever be compliant. The service provider is required to seek compliance advice regarding the future use or allocation of premium rate numbers which provide access to the service in question. The Tribunal ordered that claims for refunds are to be paid by the service provider for the full amount spent by users, except where there is good cause to believe that such claims are not valid.

Now apart from the sanctions imposed on those operating these lines, (and I doubt if the fine was ever paid) I would hope that such actions will cause the regulators to watch the activities both of those using these numbers and the company leasing them out. I would shed no tears about this whole thing being closed down by the 07xxx leased numbers being withdrawn.

I wonder why it is that we can see the common sense in this but OFCOM cant? Maybe has something to do with the money involved in this whole disreputable area. As ever it seems that with this regulator the interests of consumers lag a very long way behind the interests of big business.
(My Personal Opinion)

mavdo
17:47 10/06/09
Posts: 18

07033370040

At 16:45 10/06/09, Phonetic wrote:

07033370040 Hi, would like to know if anyone else has had a mobile phone call from 07033370040 as I had a missed call yesterday ...charged ï¿½2. I contacted Virgin ... they could or would not help me. Does anyone know if it is possible to trace these numbers and if possible how.... JG

This is the missed call scam. Advice was released by ICSTIS in Dec 2006 on exactly this:
http://www.phonepayplus.org.uk/upload/070.pdf

When you called, you were actually connected, but to something that sounded like the engaged tone, and this is nothing more than fraud. It has been going on for years. The scam has been reported on watchdog on the BBC, and in many forums
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=180976

The people to contact are PayPhonePlus and Ofcom.

Ofcom don't act for individual complaints, but they will act if sufficient complaints are received. This one has been called CLI dumping, but doesn't have a specific category on their page. You could contact ofcom on 020 7981 3040 or 0300 123 3333 to ask how to complain about this as it has been a regular complaint before. The acceptable use for 070 numbers has clearly been breached. This is found here (http://www.ofcom.org.uk/telecoms/ioi/numbers/num_070_guide#acc070)

Previous scams with 090 numbers (eg http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3499337.stm) were reported to ICSTIS (now payphoneplus), and some 070 numbers are now regulated by PPP (I quote "PhonepayPlus regulates 070 numbers if they 'offer' premium rate-style services and the cost of the call exceeds 10p per minute. ". This must be of this type because it charged you ï¿½2.

In terms of who owns this number, the website http://www.magsys.co.uk/telecom/codelook.asp says they are owned by Cheers international (frequently hit by 070 scams), and the charge is local rate plus 49ppm from landlines. Mobiles will cost MUCH more as they add on their own markup which can be HUGE.

To complain to cheers international, who say that "Cheers International ensures that all OFCOM guidelines and regulations are strictly adhered to", go here
http://www.cheersinternational.com/ and follow the links to Contact, then "complaints click here" at the top of the page, and fill in some details at the bottom (if you trust them). They say they'll disconnect them immediately if regulations are broken. They say that....

Phonetic
16:45 10/06/09
Posts: 0



07033370040 Hi, would like to know if anyone else has had a mobile phone call from 07033370040 as I had a missed call yesterday and I know I should have checked out this number first but I was not thinking and called it back and the number was engaged so did not have a chance to find out whom it was and when I checked my pay as you go charges found I had been charged ï¿½2. I contacted Virgin asking them if they knew the identity of the caller and their reply was they did not know other than it was an 'event' whatever that was supposed to mean, so they could or would not help me. Does anyone know if it is possible to trace these numbers and if possible how.... JG

mavdo
16:38 17/04/09
Posts: 18

Re: unknown text charges

81192 Re "Re: unknown text charges" posted by mavdo at 12:17 07/04/09 ... PayPhonePlus now have information on 81192. Also, the complaints link in the last message is now invalid (to access, go to www.payphoneplus.org.uk , enter in 81192 in the number checker, and follow the complaint link on that page). 81192 it seems, is wholey used by BT. It is a premium message service, and they can include premium services such as ringtones if they so wish. Costs vary by service (so 81192 could be free for certain things). Contact details for the number are BT Ignite, NSC Marketgate, Bond Street, Bristol, BS1 3TD 0117 920 8844 So, BT own and run the service that is charging you, but refuse to put you in contact with anyone who can get it stopped. Interesting? Personally, I'd make them aware of this fact, and if they still can't help say that you'd like to leave. A company that charges it's own customers without the ability to stop it unless you contact the right person, or the ability to tell you who that person is, is pretty much committing theft in my opinion.

mavdo
12:17 07/04/09
Posts: 18

Re: unknown text charges

81192

At 14:48 06/04/09, littlemissey wrote:

81192 looking for adviceif anyone can help. I keep getting charges for text messages sent to 81192. But I know nothing about it. I've asked BT my service provider but they're as slow as snail on spammer and as about as helpful as a chocolate fire guard. Does anyone know anything about this number? I'm not getting messges, just charges.

FIrstly, your mobile provider should immediately tell you who owns this number and how to stop it. Getting your money back is usually up to you from whoever is doing the sending, as unfair and as annoying as that is. That they seem to have not helped you at all is a matter for you to chase, and if you don't get a satisfactory response, after chasing through the phone, through a manager, through a letter, and finally through a final letter, then write to the regulator with this evidence. Don't wait for them to get back to you, get them to give you the answer on the phone, and if you don't get the answer, say you will leave. Be firm. This is not good enough.

Secondly, the charges will probably relate to incoming texts, not outgoing ones. Even though you are not receiving these texts, it does not mean they are not being sent to you.

Thirdly, 81192 is a number used by a number of companies, but as you don't get the texts you can't easily identify who is sending them.

The regulalations state that to stop the texts from ALL providers on this shortcode you should send a text with the words "STOP ALL" to 81192. If you are still getting charged, then go to www.payphoneplus.org.uk and make a complaint (here http://www.phonepayplus.org.uk/consumers/complain/forms/ComplaintForm.asp?QueriedTelNum=81192 ).
PayPhonePlus have no information on that short code, but would investigate, particularly in light that they have no information.

Very interestingly, 81192 is used partially by BT themselves! (for OneVoice which is supposed to reduce your international rates), tho I can't find any evidence that it is a premium service. http://www.globalservices.bt.com/LeafAction.do?Record=Onevoice_Mobile_Access_products_all_en-gb&fromPage=Search#7

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littlemissey
14:48 06/04/09
Posts: 0

unknown text charges

81192 looking for adviceif anyone can help. I keep getting charges for text messages sent to 81192. But I know nothing about it. I've asked BT my service provider but they're as slow as snail on spammer and as about as helpful as a chocolate fire guard. Does anyone know anything about this number? I'm not getting messges, just charges.

quill
23:17 15/02/09
Posts: 7

Re: SMS scams and personal data.

81322 81322 http://www.phonepayplus.org.uk/business/adjudications/search.asp?cmd=3&id=813 22 Jan 2009 Content and/or promotion provided by Wireless Information Network Limited Service provider responsible for compliance under the Code of Practice Antiphony Limited Fine ï¿½30000 American Mobile Ventures own Antiphony Limited. they also own Blue Stream Mobile Limited, http://www.phonepayplus.org.uk/business/adjudications/search.asp?AD=22%2F01%2F2009&SP=Blue+Stream+Mobile+Limited&ST=&SpLookup=Search&Keywords=&cmd=2 and Win plc record speaks for it self. http://www.phonepayplus.org.uk/business/adjudications/search.asp?AD=22%2F01%2F2009&SP=Wireless+Information+Network+Limited&ST=&SpLookup=Search&Keywords=&cmd=2 Phonepayplus actually names the companies that supplied the mobile numbers of the victims that were targeted by these companies. The service provider stated that opt-ins varied from 3rd party purchases from companies such as News International and Monster mob (hard opt-ins) http://www.nidp.com/ So next time anybody gives personal details to The Times, The Sun or The News of the World for any survey or competition they should first consider who that personal information might be sold on to. Last edited by quill on 23:22 15/02/09; edited 3 times in total

warweezil Site Admin
11:28 05/02/09
Posts: 273

Re: 070 misuse

Re "070 misuse" posted by rantrave at 10:00 05/02/09 ... Probably all quite valid, I am very aware of status of Cheers, I do feel that to describe them as a network operator is a little misleading, as thier "product" has a built in potential for "revenue abuse" as we have seen far too many times. They lease out - what are in effect - premium rate numbers, with that comes a special responsibility to prevent abuse, and a duty of care in relation to abuse of the "service". I might also add that this may also be considered to be in breach of the Privacy in Communications directive - it was not a personal call - I should not have been called at all as I am TPS registered on that number and have been for a number of years - and yes I have verified that the registration is still effective. I have already decided that the next company that ignores this will be persued as far as the law allows. I dont have a phone as a marketing tool. TPS registration makes it very clear that I dont want calls. Cheers claim that their privacy policy prevents them from disclosing identity of those using that number, even though they are in effect comitting fraud. Seeing as I had received 2 calls in a matter of a few weeks from Cheers Owned lines, I felt it only right to highlight the issue, and publicise their lack of co-operation, as well as offering protection to the scammers, they seem to be very prone to this sort of abuse, and I have to wonder if it is appropriate that a a UK personal number is registered to a customer in India! Given the regular abuse of these numbers it is high time they were moved to a different range away from the 07xxx series normally associated with mobiles. Hopefully if enough complaints are made then the practices of those companies holding these blocks will come under scrtuiny from Ofcom/PP+, maybe a tougher criteria can be forced upon them for the use of these lines. Finally, the number on which to report cases of abuse and claim refunds - operated by such companies should be a normal geographic number, why should we have to pay an often premium rate to call companies to deal with the abuses of the scammers they so readily give these numbers too. I think they have a duty of care, one that needs to be brought home to them financially. The fact that several people have recieved multiple calls speaks for itself, are the numbers leased out too readily with little or no checking, and why is it that it seems that some Cheers line abusers seem to be pooling number data? I dont have multiple calls like this from lines owned by other "networks". in fcat happily I rarely get these calls at all, and when I do I always report them. In simple terms, the regime should place a financial burden on these companies to ensure they are VERY cautious about who they allow to operate these numbers. In fact I wonder why this market needs to exist at all - apart from its potential for revenue raising abuse. (My Personal View)

rantrave
10:00 05/02/09
Posts: 0

070 misuse

08702441503 Reading some of the posts, I feel that they have been slightly misleading and may be pointing the finger too quickly and harshly at the wrong culprits. I too had several 070 miss calls from a number which was shown to be operated by CHEERS INTERNATIONAL. Upon investigation I found out that Cheers International are a NETWORK OPERATOR, and as such rent the numbers out to various companies who are the REAL CULPRITS. Upon talking to the friendly customer server representative at Cheers, they said as they are the Network Operator for these numbers they can investigate any suspected misuse on these numbers and that they have the powers to suspend any reseller or service provider using their numbers, withhold revenue and in turn pass this on to the aggrieved party. I stipulated to them that I wanted my number taken off their system, and they said whilst they don't hold data for all service providers that use their numbers, they can inform the providers and enforce where possible to withdraw my number from any data lists. SO I RECOMMEND THAT YOU CONTACT Cheers International directly if you do actually want a pro-active response. You can call them on 08702441503 also they have an online Number Enquires/Complaint form at http://www.cheerssecure.co.uk/corporate/07.html as they can assist you. For now I havenï¿½t been bothered again ) Ps. Perhaps the issue lies with why did ofcom come up with 070 in the first place, And donï¿½t forget out of every call made on these numbers your mobile operator or home telephone provider make a cut.

Nelli
13:35 03/02/09
Posts: 1

text in competitions

In early Jan this year I sent 3 texts to WH1, WH2 and WH3 to see if I'd won a prize. Since I hadn't won I completely forgot about them until my Virgin mobile statement arrived. Three sent texts at 3p each but SIX received texts at ï¿½1.50. I had absolutely no recollection of any of this and contacted Virgin who gave me the text service details but were not allowed (they said) go any further. After another few emails to Virgin they finally came up with the phone number of the regulatory body - Phonepayplus.org (0800500212) - so I rang them Very helpful and, it seems, I did enter these competitions so it was all my doing after all. But a word of warning - somewhere on the competition page in the magazine there must have been small print stating the cost of texts. I didn't look but now I know that Eckoh (the competition service) send not one reply but TWO to each text they receive - the second one to tell you know to enter other competitions. I don't know for sure, but I doubt that was mentioned in the small print! So, beware and if I can advise - don't delete the texts or calls on your mobile phone until you've received your monthly bill and have checked that they're correct. I shan't enter any more competitions!

warweezil Site Admin
0:58 31/01/09
Posts: 273

Outdoing themselves!

ANOTHER letter from Phonepay Plus today, about a different missed call scam. From this I take the view that the penalty I reported yesterday was a standard one as the other case today attracted the same penalty as notified to me yesterday, in fact same letter word for word save for the case reference number and the Service Providers details which are H,Navaneeth 47/31KrishnaJaisukh Street Thingdol Mizoram, 796075 India. The above is where you are supposed to persue a refund if you have lost money. If I am able to match the numbers to the scams I will edit them into these posts. I am somewhat cynical about the ability of anyone to obtain a refund from someone in India, personally, I feel the burden should fall on the company responsible for leasing the numbers to the scammers, that might encourage them to be a little more choosy about their clientele! (My Personal Opinion)

warweezil Site Admin
16:32 29/01/09
Posts: 273

Missed Calls Scam - Adjudication result

A letter arrived today from Phonepayplus regarding a complaint I made about the missed call scam directed at my mobile number last year, after some preamble setting out their duties the letter gets down to the meat of the issue.

Quote:

Investigation.
The Executive received complaints for this service and its promotion operated by the service provider. Compliants were received regarding the receipt of calls from 070 prefixed numbers to mobile telephones which terminated after one ring.

This suggested that the service may be in breach of the Code of Practice.

Adjudication
The case went before a tribunal for adjudication and its decision was that the service was in breach of the Code of Practice.

Due to the nature of the breaches, the Tribunal imposed the following sanctions.

The letter then gives the service providers details as follows.

Quote:

This is a first for me as in the past reports to ICSTIS seemed to lack any conclusion.

In summary, although I ignored the call and didnt suffer any loss, I felt it worth raising the issue with the regulator, as a result some of these stupid 070 numbers are closed off for a while. 07xx should be restricted to to mobiles, while "Personal Numbers" (Currently under code 070x) may have a value, their continued existance with 07 prefixes attracts fraudulent use such as we have seen here.

I hope that anyone experiencing this will take the few minutes needed to report abuses like this, maybe if enough reports go through Phonepayplus and OFCOM may consider the future of 070 number blocks - Im sure the mobile networks would welcome some additional number ranges being available - if OFCOM ever has the good sense to reassign these numbers a new prefix so they will be less readily confused with mobile numbers

(My Personal Opinion)

quill
23:05 20/01/09
Posts: 7

Re: Cheers International 07033319124

07033319124 Re "Cheers International 07033319124" posted by warweezil at 14:45 20/11/08 .. How much revenue is generated by these missed call scams? What percentage cut of the scam do the Network Operators take before passing the rest on to companies like Cheers International? Why has Ofcom allowed this fraudulent billing disgrace to continue for so long? Why does the Government (DTI/BERR), that is lobbied by the trade groups that represent the telecoms/premium rate industry, turn a blind eye to this antisocial multimillion pound criminal scandal? Phone Call Complaints Recent Phone Call Reports 07033353366 07033355135 07033358203 07033348390 07033316189 07033312698 07033356285 07033349538 07033346159 07033314318 07033373973 07033334458 07033307870 07033379154 07033322067 07033359002 07033331315 070333 Other Reported Calls 07033351143 07033322136 07033371956 07033366810 07033361549 07033368264 070333855582 0703332395207033364144 07033364295 07033352566 07033363046 07033338283 07033337788 07033337370 0703333 07033329945 07033317992 07033314667 07033314894 07033306308 07033312166 07033363745 07033366929 07033351011 07033355735 07033354291 07033359644 07033372785 07033365365 07033365101 07033357473 07033338969 07033328043 07033376934

quill
21:47 05/12/08
Posts: 7

International Audiotex Regulators Network

http://www.mobile-ent.biz/news/32015/IARN-phone-payments-initiative-gains-support IARN phone payments initiative gains support The IARM initiative, which has been advised on by ex-UK watchdog (PhonepayPlus) chief George Kidd, has the support of the Mobile Entertainment Forum and the Mobile Marketing Association. Speaking in Australia, Kidd said: ï¿½The mobile payments market has the potential to soon besoon to four or five times the size it is today. Consumer trust is the critical factor. And trust is indivisible. If consumers have trust they could use their mobiles for banking, money transfers, location-based services, to buy a far wider ranges of services and goods. If they lose trust these opportunities will go unfulfilled.ï¿½ http://www.gsmworld.com/ The GSMA is the global trade association representing the interests of over 850 GSM mobile phone operators http://ingthor.com/index.php?/archives/575-Ekki-hringja-i-etta-numer-!.html Telespazio actually asked and obtained from the Internationl Telecommunication Union (ITU) in 1998 the ï¿½88213ï¿½ virtual country code to serve the European Mobile Satellite network (EMSAT), with professional mobile satellite applications. The mobile Network Operators (GSMA) and Telespazio and other companies in the value chain all share the revenue generated from this global multimillion dollar missed-call billing fraud. That may explain the apparent lack of action and reluctance in shutting down the fraud. If you are receiving missed-calls from 88213 or any other International or Premium Rate number there are no shortage of National/International Regulators to complain to. If they claim it is not their responsibility to address the problem then they are lying. The Regulators have the ability and the legal authority (responsibility) to identify and shut down the companies that misuse networks to cause consumer harm. http://www.itu.int/net/home/index.aspx International Telecommunication Union http://www.iarn.org/ Formed in 1995, IARN is the International Audiotex Regulators Network. Its main objectives are to encourage exchanges of information and to provide general knowledge of the regulation of the audiotex industry and the way regulation is approached in the member countries. It has a rotating Chair and meets twice a year. IARN plays an important role in working to ensure that the development of audiotex (or premium rate) services within the European Union (and beyond) goes hand-in-hand with effective consumer protection. http://www.phonepayplus.org.uk/pdfs/CONSULT%20RESP%20OECD%20GUIDE%20FEB%2003.PDF ICSTIS ( PhonepayPlus ) was instrumental in establishing the International Audiotex Regulators Network (IARN). Here are the UKï¿½s ï¿½chocolate fire-guardsï¿½. http://www.ofcom.org.uk/ http://www.phonepayplus.org.uk/ Each country will have their own sad examples that pass themselves off has consumer protection bodies. Here are a sample of the 88213 numbers that are/have been used in this ongoing scandal. http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Calls.aspx/882 Recent Phone Call Reports ï¿½ http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/88213229001 ï¿½ 8 Nov 2008 to 25 Nov 2008 ï¿½ ï¿½ http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/88213220028 ï¿½ 5 Nov 2008 to 25 Nov 2008 ï¿½ ï¿½ http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/88213229003 ï¿½ 24 Nov 2008 ï¿½ ï¿½ http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/88213229016 ï¿½ 24 Nov 2008 ï¿½ ï¿½ http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/88213229044 ï¿½ 8 Nov 2008 to 21 Nov 2008 ï¿½ ï¿½ http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/88213100199 ï¿½ 16 Aug 2008 to 21 Nov 2008 ï¿½ ï¿½ http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/88213213340 ï¿½ 9 Aug 2008 to 21 Nov 2008 ï¿½ ï¿½ http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/88213229033 ï¿½ 10 Nov 2008 to 21 Nov 2008 ï¿½ ï¿½ http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/88213220026 ï¿½ 10 Nov 2008 to 20 Nov 2008 ï¿½ ï¿½ http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/88213220009 ï¿½ 20 Nov 2008 ï¿½ ï¿½ http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/88213220018 ï¿½ 20 Nov 2008 ï¿½ ï¿½ http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/88213220031 ï¿½ 5 Nov 2008 to 20 Nov 2008 ï¿½ ï¿½ http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/88213229017 ï¿½ 20 Nov 2008 ï¿½ ï¿½ http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/88213220045 ï¿½ 7 Nov 2008 to 20 Nov 2008 ï¿½ ï¿½ http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/88213220023 ï¿½ 20 Nov 2008 ï¿½ ï¿½ http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/88213229014 ï¿½ 20 Nov 2008 ï¿½ ï¿½ http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/88213229004 ï¿½ 19 Nov 2008 ï¿½ ï¿½ http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/88213229007 ï¿½ 10 Nov 2008 to 20 Nov 2008 ï¿½ ï¿½ http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/88213220013 ï¿½ 20 Nov 2008 ï¿½ ï¿½ http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/88213220004 ï¿½ 20 Nov 2008 ï¿½ ï¿½ http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/88213220015 ï¿½ 12 Nov 2008 to 19 Nov 2008 ï¿½ ï¿½ http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/88213229043 ï¿½ 19 Nov 2008 ï¿½ ï¿½ http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/88213220029 ï¿½ 6 Nov 2008 to 19 Nov 2008 ï¿½ ï¿½ http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/88213220012 ï¿½ 19 Nov 2008 ï¿½ ï¿½ http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/88213220925 ï¿½ 19 Nov 2008 ï¿½ ï¿½ http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/88213220041 ï¿½ 10 Nov 2008 to 19 Nov 2008 ï¿½ ï¿½ http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/88213220032 ï¿½ 19 Nov 2008 ï¿½ ï¿½ http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/88213220022 ï¿½ 12 Nov 2008 to 19 Nov 2008 ï¿½ ï¿½ http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/88213213608 ï¿½ 20 Aug 2008 to 19 Nov 2008 ï¿½ ï¿½ http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/88213229018 ï¿½ 19 Nov 2008 Other Reported Calls 88213229049 88213220020 88213229002 88213220005 88213220001 88213229018 88213220033 88213220046 88213220042 88213220040 88213229013 88213220037 88213229035 88213229009 88213220038 88213220010 88213220021 882-132-2012 88213220044 88213229048 8821310 88213220047 88213220049 88213213849 882132213608 882132136082 882-132-1334 88213213508 88213300300 88213213342 882133003300 8821646650226 88213213505 88213213324 88213213325 88213213061 88213213039 Suspicious Phone Numbers 88213220030 88213229047 88213229045 88213229042 88249972 882453788 88213295603 88213229037 88213229025 88213220008 88213220016 8821 88213220035 88213220014 88230 88213229031 8821655587796 88213229021 88213229022 88213 88213229026 88213229028 88213220007 88216900590 88233000 88213220036 88213220039 88213220002 88213220024 88213229010 88213220043 88213229015 88213229005 8820366 88231229001 882131001993 8829325 8821579 8821322 88213220000 88216 882213220033 88213220034 882132290 8821323608 882132273608 88213213229035 88233300 8824313 882-132-1360 88213213606 882-133-0033 882133220041 882132200 882-131-0019 882132 88212100199 88291 88213213609 88213687952 8821627 882548110 88213213696 882-132-1608 88213100198 88288 882-130-0199 882-131-0099 8821646602481 882367619 88213213157 88222 882132136081 882161900000 88291346389 882133003 88213215784 88213213654 88213213556 88213213607 88213300301 882-131-3608 882-133-0300 8823300 88216900890 882-321-3608 88223000 882133003301 88213213 8824515 88213980778 88213100200 88211 882320999999 882-310-0199 8823223691906450000 882749871 88213213503 88213213326 88213213300 88213213344 88211763 88213300340 88213300341 88213300342 88213300344 88213300349 882131213503 88253173 882131100199 88213213213 88213213341 882-132-3340 88211323340 882132133340 882-223-4560 882321 882-375-4567 882133 8829571 8821322133840 8825204 882-132-1340 88213213065 8828822 882132123340 88213213349 882123340 882-131-3340 88213213356 8821321 882585328 8829237 88242 882-163-0003 882-882-3811 8823811 8824780 882133000 8820600 88249758 88213213501 882132113061 88228882 88214214024 88231246890 8824157384341 882725543 88215580 8829450 http://www.thepaypers.com/news/article.aspx?cid=736284 Also, research points out that people from various countries are making increasing use of fixed and mobile telecommunications services to pay for goods and services. Today, premium SMS payments are used on social-networking sites, for value-add directory services, in charitable-giving, as payment for some public services and for a host of mobile personalisation services. The data was published by IARN, the International network of regulators of phone-paid premium telecommunication services.

warweezil Site Admin
14:45 20/11/08
Posts: 273

Cheers International 07033319124

07033319124 07033319124 Ok not quite an SMS scam, but "missed call" can be as bad. This is the second time in 2 months that I have had a 2 ring "missed call" from a "Cheers owned" line. having heard nothing back from the "regulator" in response to my last complaint I decided this time to call Phonepayplus (Stupid name) and blow off some steam. I am awaiting a call back from them, I have also had a chat with the Information Commissioners Office I want to look into the possibility that my TPS registered number is being shared illegally on some scammers database. Clearly the only way to deal with these parasites is to make a nuisance of ones self, and I am happy to be a thorn in thier side whenever I can. If I can involve the ICO in respect of the usage and possible selling of my number data then that may be a more effective method to attack this problem Despite the "client privacy" disclaimer on thier site I am certain that Cheers International have a duty to give up the identity of whoever operates that line as there are the additonal issues here involving the EU directive on "privacy in communications", as a TPS registered number this is one they should not be calling at all, I will have the information from them about who operates that number so I can ask them if they are buying data from a source of just "guesstimating" phone numbers, both of which are actionable (my number being TPS registered should not be included on any aggregators list). I have checked with the ICO and Cheers cannot hide this behind the DPA as it is information on a company - not an individual Again I wonder why the Govt is so reluctant to renumber this premium rate service to remove the confusion surrounding the use of 07xxx codes (most people would assume it was a mobile call), I can only assume that getting 2 of these calls in 2 months indicates that the regime inside of Cheers International is failing in its duty to prevent abuse of these ludicurous numbers, and I have to ask, is Cheers International a fit and proper company to be licensed to allocate these numbers? I have my doubts. I wasnt exactly pleased when asked by Phonepayplus if I had called Cheers International. My reply was that I have calls to geographic numbers included on my phone rental and I didnt see that Cheers scamming us on a premium rate 087xx number to complain about their customers was very much different to the call that had caused this complaint in the first place. Phonepayplus are calling them on my behalf, but IMHO there should be a freefone number maintained by these firms to report abuse of this nature - why should we have to pay through the nose to do it? It is interesting to note that this telecoms company doesnt accept complaints by phone according to its website. Another shining example of the lack or REAL regulation in the telecoms sector by toothless watchdogs and reluctant regulators. Time for some harsh penalties to be applied. (My Personal Opinion)

quill
13:07 10/11/08
Posts: 7

2008 International Parcel Delivery Scam

Austria +43820 **** Sierra Leone +2322227 These numbers are being used as a revenue share premium rate billing mechanism and the calls may not terminate in those countries. In previous cases where international premium rate numbers have been used the numbers were 'short stopped' in London to maximize revenue share for the companies involved in the fraud. many people are receiving text messages Text message - "URGENT! A large parcel is awaiting delivery, please call +43820** [or +2322227**] for delivery tomorrow. From International Parcel Deliveries" they are also appearing as missed calls on mobiles. the International Regulator http://www.iarn.org/ the Austrian Regulator http://www.rtr.at/ the UK Regulator http://www.phonepayplus.org.uk/ The Austrian 0820 numbers are similar to UK 0871 numbers. They are revenue share and belong to blocks owned by: (0)820 990800 to (0820 990999 Telekom Austria TA Aktiengesellschaft and (0)820 899500 to (0)820 899599 atms Telefon- und Marketing Services GmbH There are probably many more. These revenue share numbers are the leased on to other companies. from 17/10/08 the numbers are given to Ambervox AG CH, 6303 Zug, Charmerstr. 79 Ambervox is really Ambavox Charmerstr is really Chamerstrasse ......................... from 12.09.2008 the numbers are given to: Maxtis s.r.o. CZ-12000, Prague, Kralodvorska 16 ............................... Maxtis also supplies Sierra Leone numbers http://www.maxtis.com/index.php?lang=en&mod=products Sierra Leone +232 222 720 70 .......................................... There are probably many more. This years scam is being operated on a massive scale and raking in millions for the fraudsters and again our National and European Regulators have failed to protect the public from the Industry they 'regulate'. Again they have refused to involve the National police forces of the countries involved

GeoffPinder
20:05 04/11/08
Posts: 0

Premium Text Message

09094100151 Message Received from 89974 "Call 09094100151 to use ur mins! Calls cast 10p/min (mob vary). Service provided by AOM, just GBP5/month. AOM Box61,M60 1ER until u stop. Ages 18+ only!" I don't remember ever subscribing to anything such as this, and I've tried sending STOP, and I don't get a cancellation message and the messages still come through. I've searched online for both the shortcode and the 0909 number, and not found anything, nor have I found a company reference for AOM (the address given shares the same address as a psychic helpline, but relates to a different premium rate telephone number). Following advice from GrumbleText I tried sending STOP ALL - which so far (after about an hour and a half) hasn't produced a cancellation message, so will wait and see if another message is received.

GeoffPinder
19:50 04/11/08
Posts: 0

Premium Text Message

09094100151 Message Received from 89974 "Call 09094100151 to use ur mins! Calls cast 10p/min (mob vary). Service provided by AOM, just GBP5/month. AOM Box61,M60 1ER until u stop. Ages 18+ only!" I don't remember ever subscribing to anything such as this, and I've tried sending STOP, and I don't get a cancellation message and the messages still come through. I've searched online for both the shortcode and the 0909 number, and not found anything, nor have I found a company reference for AOM (the address given shares the same address as a psychic helpline, but relates to a different premium rate telephone number). Following advice from GrumbleText I tried sending STOP ALL - which so far (after about an hour and a half) hasn't produced a cancellation message, so will wait and see if another message is received.

junebrown
12:21 02/11/08
Posts: 4

re premium text charge

i changed my orange mobile plan last month to cap my bit u know credit crunch and all- and so when this months bill i was staggered to find it was double what i anticipated- so i wne through it and i found i was being chrged 85p a dya everyday for a text-i rang orange and they told me someone must have subscribed to the servie- so they serached back it seem its been going on for the last 7 months- i ahve jsut never lokked at my phone bills before>i know it was not me so i dont know how it happened they wont refund and i have just worked out i have lost about ï¿½180 not happy! the moral of the story- check your bil- imean elaly check it and dont levar your phone anywhere-they reckon it could have even be someone at he pub it only takes 30 seconds- i might have lft it on a table or something this should be illega- what is the need for these services? jb

brin
9:42 18/10/08
Posts: 15

Re: Tanla, Royal legion Poppy Appeal

80848 80848 Anybody who has been robbed by the Premium Rate Industry will no doubt have heard of Tanla. For the first time The Royal British Legion will include a short code number on their nationwide campaign poster and invites members of the public to text ï¿½POPPYï¿½ to 80848 to make their $1.50 donation. Alternatively up to ï¿½10 donations can be submitted by Payforit by visiting the 3 website, the Vodafone website or www.poppy.org The Royal Legion should do a 'due diligence' test on this company. They can start by looking at their disgraceful record on the PhonepayPlus web site. Last edited by brin on 9:52 18/10/08; edited 1 time in total

Kasey
18:16 17/10/08
Posts: 0

Re: even more good news

08712316883 The 0871 number produced a heated discussion so I hung up and rang the 0845 number which is actually Zamano. They agreed to stop the 'service' immediately and a text has been received to that effect - I'll reserve judgement on whether it's actually worked till after the next text is due! They gave me another 0871 number to ring for 'Cueball' (who apparently use Zamano's software to run the 'service') to try for a refund. I got the same bloke I'd had the row with before, but he did eventually agree to refund the charges (ï¿½9) by way of a cheque to my home address - again, I'll wait & see what happens, but I'm hopeful.

At 8:49 17/10/08, mike.ward wrote:

08712316883 Par for the course from Zamano I'm afraid. I should ignore them and keep pestering O2. They choose to do business with the likes of Zamano, they should sort it out when these firms scam people.

Some good news however: George Kidd is the latest casualty in a series of resignations from Phonepayplus - the regulator that has been failing to protect us all from the likes of Zamano for many a long year. Perhaps things are looking up on the regulatory front.

At 22:22 15/10/08, Kasey wrote:

08712316883

At 14:20 24/02/08, flyingflea wrote:

08448714184 Freemsg: 1-month unlimited free calls! Activate SmartCall Txt: CALL to No: 68866. Subscriptn3gbp/wk unlimited calls Help: 08448714184 Stop?txt stop landlineonly

I'm O2 and received a text from a Blyk phone the other day, other than I have no idea how/why I might have received it.

O2 were very helpful when I rang them tonight about this number appearing on my 83 yr old mother's bill. Mother has had a major stroke and has definitely NOT requested anything on premium text services.

They confirmed the company is Zamano Ltd, Bedford Chambers, Piaza, Covent Garden, London WC2 8HA, Tel 08712316883 or possibly 0845 2252244 (neither of which feature on the saynoto0870 website), email: [email protected]
Their website: www.gamb.tv gives a blank page,

I'll let you know how I get on when I try to contact Zamano tomorrow morning!

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