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aldermoor11  
12:49 26/02/12
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07624803041 Re "" posted by aldermoor11 at 22:51 18/02/12 ...
Hi friends,
Any of you know received SMS from the numbers 447624803040,; 07624803041,07624803042,or 447624803043?
Please let me know if you did. I am still waiting for the police to trace the account
who used the site. The company refused to get me any details. I think these
SMS are created from outside UK as the SMS global is not a UK company.
Please help with any clues. Your help will benefit all those affected by
these unresponsible who harrasing others.
Thanks friends.
aldermoor11  
12:44 26/02/12
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07624803041 Re "" posted by aldermoor11 at 22:51 18/02/12 ...
Hi friends,
Any of you know received SMS from the numbers 447624803040,; 07624803041,07624803042,or 447624803043?
Please let me know if you did. I am still waiting for the police to trace the account
who used the site. The company refused to get me any details. I think these
SMS are created from outside UK as the SMS global is not a UK company.
Please help with any clues. Your help will benefit all those affected by
these unresponsible who harrasing others.
Thanks friends.
ninelivesmedia  
17:43 20/02/12
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SCAM TEXTS / CALLS - BBC DOCUMENTARY     Post a reply to this message

07534476984 The BBC are producing a documentary about people who have received texts messages and cold calls of a scam nature.

If you would like to tell BBC of your experiences of receiving scam calls/text, then please either email Alex at [email protected] or call him on 07534 476984.

Regards

Alex
aldermoor11  
22:51 18/02/12
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Re "" posted by aldermoor11 at 23:17 28/01/12 ...

Just to update you friends. SMS global has confirmed that the numbers
where I've receIved the messages from are belong to them.
They said they have blocked the account that caused me distress for
weeks. Anyone who received messages from same website,specially
from the numbers +447624803040;+447624803041; +447624803042;+447624803043 could you please let me know?
Thanks guys.
warweezil  Site Admin
8:48 15/02/12
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Re: 700044050     Post a reply to this message

Re "700044050" posted by Martin D at 20:34 14/02/12 ...
I ran the number through the Phonepayplus checker - it is unrecognized as I expected - as far as I am aware - it is the wrong format for a UK shortcode.

The checker gives a number to contact the regulator on - it would be a good idea to notify them of this problem they can be reached on 0800500212.
Martin D  
20:34 14/02/12
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700044050     Post a reply to this message

my daughter recieved 4 texts from this number 700044050 charged at �2.00 each. Have tried texting STOP back to the number but texts bounce back undelivered

Regards

Martin D
aldermoor11  
11:22 30/01/12
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Re "" posted by warweezil at 16:58 29/01/12 ...
Thx, will call them.
I did find them when I did google search.
I do not think they run web based SMS service. But I shall give it a go.

Thx
Sam
warweezil  Site Admin
16:58 29/01/12
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Re "" posted by aldermoor11 at 23:17 28/01/12 ...

I ran the number through an on-line checker and got this result.
Quote:
(Number)076248 :(Locality or Use) Paging Manx Telecom: (Service) Mobile 2G/3G: (Charging Band) FM1 O2 Mobile: (Operator) Manx Telecom:

So as at least part of that number block is registered to Manx Telecom I think your next move should be to ask Manx Telecom if they can confirm that the numbers in question belong to them.

Hope this helps.
aldermoor11  
23:17 28/01/12
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Help please.
Received many abusive messages from serial numbers: +447624803040& 41&42&43.
I've contacted vodfone who said these messages are website generated
as they did not go to the message centre then to my blackberry.
Anyone know which SMS website generate messages with that number?
The numbers do not exist if you try to ring back.
The police is searching. I've had a very bad experience
at Burton Police Station to the extent I've submitted 3 complaints to the IPCC.
I did google search using SMS from 447624803040 and I found the number endong with 40 showing with a website called SMS global ( [email protected])Does anyone know about that site and how it works? Looks like a site for business text. Any thoughts friends? Anyone receives text from that site?
Thanks friends.

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llanbu  
10:40 06/01/12
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jokerquiz     Post a reply to this message

08443850012 Hopefully the info here will save people LOTS of time ..

My 11 year old son has been recieving �2 premium text messages. He did not knowingly request this service or buy a product. He has been sent numerous messages so i contacted virgin to cancel them.

I spoke to virgin media and they said premium messages had been stopped.

WRONG...they started coming back again

We recieved another �16 of premium text messages to my 11 year olds phone !!!

After days and days of pointless phonecalls ive got to the bottom of it.

Call the regulator 'PhonePlayPlus' - 0800500212 and ask them to investigate, takes 2 days so cal back after 2 days, and written info sent to you within 12 weeks as well.
Quote the shortcode to make a complaint - short code is 60700 (virgin refused to give it to me)
Send STOP to 60700
The Jokerquiz service is run by a company called 'ordanduu'. Their customer service number is -
0844 3850012
Call them to speak to a robot human hybrid if you need to...
Ask for a refund via - [email protected]


Im going to formally complain to about virgin media. Virgin robots hybrids have transferred me to wrong departments, withheld information, hung up the phone and been generally obstructive. Total disgrace. In the last 2 days ive spoke to South Africa, India and probably somewhere in space..Uranus?

Couple of questions -
Virgin said they cannot stop premium text messages coming to this phone. Is this true??
Virgin said they cannot reduce the credit limit below �50. Is this true??

Hope this helps someone because the whole thing really peed me off. How on earth an elderly person such as my parents would cope i dont know....total fraud and a scandal..

Also this is a 'payforit' service whatever that means...we certainly paid for it...
rosiehar  
22:03 04/01/12
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SMS 69877 - STOP ALL or STOP not working     Post a reply to this message

Tried STOP ALL and STOP on SMS 69877 but it does not work .

Still getting SMSs charged at �1.25.

Plan to inform O2.

Ay other advice welcome
Regards
mattgenton  
1:29 03/01/12
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a bit late but happy newyear     Post a reply to this message

hi to all at www.grumbletext.co.uk i thought i had sent this newyears eve but it didnt send so i have sent it again good luck for 2012 to all of you
- matt
Quickerby  
11:02 16/12/11
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Virgin Mobile unsolicited premium rate texts     Post a reply to this message

My daughter has been billed for unsolicited premium rate texts. Virgin mobile give the number as 700010326 and told her to text STOP. This does not worlk because the number is not a phone number. I phoned Payphoneplus who told me that the number is Virgin's own reference number and that I ahould insist Virgin give me the short code. Virgin say they cant give us the number and its my daughter fault for downloading an app and signing up to the texts. She is adamant she didn't do this. Virgin say the only answer is to cancel her sim and get a new one which she doesn't want to do. Virigin also say they cannot block the messages. Can anybody help?
dangerjunkie  
23:39 27/10/11
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Perry's Ford     Post a reply to this message

Just received twice via SMS to my mobile broadband SIM (that has never been used for SMS)

"PERRYS NEW: Last chance this weekend to beat the Ford price increase. Call Perrys Ford on 01296 426162 for the best deals!! To opt out text cancel to 80039"

I don't do business with spammers. There is no way I'm ever walking through Perrys' door now.
warweezil  Site Admin
8:32 05/07/11
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Re: GOGOGY texts which I did not subscribe to, �1.50/text     Post a reply to this message

Re "GOGOGY texts which I did not subscribe to, �1.50/text" posted by Nita at 10:21 20/06/11 ...

If you have already sent the STOP reply then the next option is to contact Phonepayplus, which despite its name isn't a spamming service - they are the regulator for premium text services like this one.

I had a look at the Tubely site and what I noticed was an ad for people in my area I can "talk to now", suffice it to say that knowing my small west coast town the way I do Im pretty certain that "SEAN" isnt from my area, so the whole site would seem to be one that might be best avoided.

Im glad I havent been sucked into the whole "social networking" thing, its a just a marketing tool for ad companies to make money. I keep myself and my friendships private - along with our personal data like email addresses etc..
Nita  
10:21 20/06/11
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GOGOGY texts which I did not subscribe to, �1.50/text     Post a reply to this message

A friend send me the Tubely website in which she invited me to be her 'friend'. I started adding information and immediately received 3 texts on my mobile. I suspected a problem and tried to opt out, but it did not work! I replied to the text with CANCEL PLEASE, but it dit not work. I received about 15 other texts. My husband got the tel no on their website and phoned. They would not listen and said I replied YES to their texts. What do I do TO STOP THEM and refund my money?
greasepot  
0:34 04/05/11
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international telephone calls.     Post a reply to this message

Just a warning!.
After receiving over two days 14 international calls on my land line
13 silent, when the 14th came I muttered unprintable words as I picked it up just in case it was the brother in-law who lives In France, it wasn�t the brother in law but the scammer who made the 14 calls using autodialing for 13 with the last (14th dialled manually).

� We are �garbled name � work on behalf of BT, Vrigin and Sky and you have been receiving many international calls over the last two days (how did he know I never mentioned them then realised later he made them)
�We can stop them for a small sum of �29.99 payable by bank card. He rang off after I fired off questions he couldn�t reply to and got hot under the collar.

It�s a scam for either just �29.99 or clearing out of account once they got card details.
Why do I say scam, well as Retired G.P.O /BT engineer I know that if BT cannot stop international calls then his so called package could not either, plus I sussed at the start of his conversation he had made the calls, and yes I reported it the same day to BT my supplyer. So if anyone phones /texts/emails offering to stop nuisance international calls then tell them to stick it .

Greasepot.
FlameTV  
15:30 27/09/10
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New Series of BBC 1's Don't Get Done, Get Dom     Post a reply to this message

02075987312 Consumer champion Dominic Littlewood is back for another series of the BBC show Don't Get Done Get Dom.
Have you been treated unfairly by a company or organisation? Maybe you�ve tried complaining, but feel like you�re getting nowhere � or perhaps you don�t know where to begin?
Dom wants to help you. Email me with details to [email protected] or call 0207 598 7312
FlameTV  
15:18 27/09/10
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New Series of BBC 1's Don't Get Done, Get Dom     Post a reply to this message

02075987312 Consumer champion Dominic Littlewood is back for another series of the BBC show Don't Get Done Get Dom.
Have you been treated unfairly by a company or organisation? Maybe you�ve tried complaining, but feel like you�re getting nowhere � or perhaps you don�t know where to begin?
Dom wants to help you. Email me with details to [email protected] or call 0207 598 7312
manny  
22:41 02/06/10
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09083137002
At 13:23 01/06/10, manny wrote:
09083137002 hi guys im getting texts from 07787095113 when i ring this its allways on answerphone and belongs to vodafone. the texts which i received


Direct dial into DIRTY stories and HOT luv action Call anytme on 09083137002 ROXY

This message free
+18only Firstsound
cs 08444994758 �1.50 per minute



ive rang the customer support line so many times to remove my number from the automated service but still get them. do you think im getting them from a company called forstsound? anyone have any contact details for them please? any help will be appreciated. thanks.



PhonepayPlus has the following information about the premium rate number 09083137002.

The number offers an Adult Content service. This is promoted through various sources including magazines, the internet and television and you use it with your telephone or mobile phone.
This service costs �1.50 per minute (plus any phone network surcharges - check with your phone company for full details).
If you would like to find out more about this service you should contact the company listed below.

First Sound Ltd
213 St John Street
London
EC1V 4LY
0207 608 1765
manny  
13:23 01/06/10
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annoying adult texts     Post a reply to this message

09083137002 hi guys im getting texts from 07787095113 when i ring this its allways on answerphone and belongs to vodafone. the texts which i received


Direct dial into DIRTY stories and HOT luv action Call anytme on 09083137002 ROXY

This message free
+18only Firstsound
cs 08444994758 �1.50 per minute



ive rang the customer support line so many times to remove my number from the automated service but still get them. do you think im getting them from a company called forstsound? anyone have any contact details for them please? any help will be appreciated. thanks.

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manny  
13:15 01/06/10
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annoying adult texts     Post a reply to this message

09083137002 hi guys im getting texts from 07787095113 when i ring this its allways on answerphone and belongs to vodafone. the texts which i received


Direct dial into DIRTY stories and HOT luv action Call anytme on 09083137002 ROXY

This message free
+18only Firstsound
cs 08444994758 �1.50 per minute



ive rang the customer support line so many times to remove my number from the automated service but still get them. do you think im getting them from a company called forstsound? anyone have any contact details for them please? any help will be appreciated. thanks.
reeftv  
9:46 12/05/10
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BRAND NEW BBC CONSUMER SHOW NEEDS YOU!     Post a reply to this message

02075392026 DID YOUR HOLIDAY NOT LOOK ANYTHING LIKE IT DID IN THE BROCHURE? HAS YOUR BROADBAND COMPANY OVERCHARGED YOU? IN FACT DO YOU FEEL CHEATED OUT OF MONEY BY ANY COMPANY?

Well we might be able to help. We want to hear your stories for a brand new BBC show, where celebrity experts will be helping resolve consumer complaints and grievances.

On Saturday 22nd May from 10am we are inviting you to come down to our CONSUMER ROADSHOW at Whiteleys Shopping Centre, Queensway, London, W2 4YN (Nearest tubes: Bayswater or Queensway). Our experts will be meeting members of the public who feel they have been treated unfairly as a consumer and are seeking compensation.

We can dish out advice, and our celebrity experts will be looking to take some cases on themselves to guarantee your money back.

So don�t suffer in silence anymore � come on down with your evidence (letters, photos, or anything that backs up your case). It may just be worth your while.

Please drop us a line with your stories to [email protected] or call us on 0207 539 2026.
Ant2009  
12:10 27/03/10
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07743576477 Re "+447500 482928" posted by iandsmith at 14:38 21/01/10 ...

I've received the same message (with slight variations) from +447743576477, +447719396675 and +447517563271, the latest on 26/3/2010:

Quote:
FREEMSG: Our records indicate you may be entitled to 3750 pounds for the Accident you had. To claim for free reply with YES to this msg. To opt out text STOP


I'd love to know who this company is and where they got my number from (assuming they're not just sending to random numbers).

http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/07743576477
http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/07719396675
http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/07517563271
quill  
21:30 25/02/10
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T-mobile and Virgin Mobile phantom charges     Post a reply to this message

'700xxxxxx' http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Calls.aspx/700

most of the above complaints appear to concern children!

What percentage are T-mobile and Virgin Mobile pocketing and when the hell is this Government and Ofcom going to get a grip of this damn industry and the excuse for 'consumer protection' Phonepayplus?

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warweezil  Site Admin
14:10 30/01/10
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Re: Talent Text - 88080     Post a reply to this message

88080 Re "Talent Text - 88080" posted by Coolcakes at 10:00 30/01/10 ...

88080 seems to be controlled by
MX Telecom
15th Floor
389 Chiswick High Road
London
W4 4AL
0844 824 7441
[email protected].
If the Contact number isn't working and you are being charged for these messages then it is time to make a complaint to Phonepayplus.
Coolcakes  
10:00 30/01/10
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Talent Text - 88080     Post a reply to this message

88080 "Brand new music show is currently looking for a new presenter email resumes to [email protected] ref 4728 to 88080."

I've text STOP and STOP ALL to numerous numbers given on the website and I'm still getting texts which are costing me.
On the Talent Text website, the help phone number is not a real number!

Thanks.
iandsmith  
14:38 21/01/10
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+447500 482928     Post a reply to this message

FREEMSG: Our records indicate you may be entitled to 3750 pounds for the Accident you had. To claim for free reply with CLAIM to this msg. To opt out text STOP
dinger  
17:34 29/12/09
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Re: 69844 - Antiphony Ltd     Post a reply to this message

At 14:17 15/07/09, dinger wrote:
Had 2 unsolicited Premium rate SMS messages from this number today

The first arrived Just before 2pm
Quote:
Welcome! Please reply with your AGE and GENDER to begin. e.g 24M

Second message 20 mins later
Quote:
Sexy Singles are waiting for you! Text your AGE followed by your GENDER as wither M or F E.G.23F. For gay men text your AGE followed by a G. e.g.23G.

Well in theory that was expensive for Antiphony, a letter arrived today from PhonepayPlus informing us of the decision in respect of my complaint against them in respect of the texts above. They have been found to be in breach of the PhonepayPlus code of practice.

Due to the nature of the breaches the Tribunal imposed the following sanctions:

A Formal Reprimand.
A fine of �50,000 (comprising �40,000 in respect of the upheld breaches, with an uplift of �10,000 in respect of breach history)
There was also a requirement for the Information Provider to seek compliance advice in respect of this and similar chat services (whether or not these incorporated a dating service) within 2 weeks of the publication of this decision and to implement such advice within 2 weeks of it being given.

I wonder if the fine will ever be paid. Considering the lines used by these pests are leased to them, maybe it is time for there to be a joint responsibility for penalty for all involved - even the company leasing out the numbers used. That might focus them a little more sharply on the sort of companies they are dealing with.

I would also point out this is twice this year I have had a successful complaint against this outfit, Why are they not being barred from using the telephone network to pester us with spam about their worthless "services".

Just goes to show its worth complaining. if nothing else it shows PhonepayPlus there is still a problem.
mavdo  
10:28 02/12/09
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08453445660
At 10:47 10/09/09, mavdo wrote:
08453445660 "Hi <name>, if you have loans, cards, finance pre April 07 get them legally written off, call 08453445660 or reply YES for callback. txtSTOP2optout"
Allegedly this is from Beneficial Claims...

A response from ICO has arrived... 3 months after I got the text.
Yet another breach of regulation 22; yet another "reminder" letter written and an instruction to suppress my number (I don't want it "suppressed", I want it removed and never again to be re-added. They shouldn't even have it!). So another "they've done wrong, but unfortunately we've got no real teeth, so we've kindly asked them to stop breaking the law" message from ICO.
I find the ICO side with the consumer on the regulations a lot and have the potential to be of real help tidying up this dirty industry, but they really need to be given the powers to actually punish people who blatantly breach regulations (and it would help fund them too!). Companies won't stop doing something that benefits them, even if morally or legally wrong, unless there are consequences to them doing it. If the punishment for robbery was a judge asking someone nicely to stop, would we clear up crime?
quill  
20:32 29/11/09
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WIN (Wireless Information Network) Ltd / Venista spam n scam     Post a reply to this message

08706091794 08706091794 85051 82355 84748 83435 83044

http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/08706091794
http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/08706091795
http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/82344
http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/82355

In 2005 the WIN / Venista team were fined for spam and unsolicited debiting from phone accounts.

May be Phonepayplus should stop pocketing the fines and start replacing the money to the accounts from where it was taken.

29 April 2005 Fine 10000
27 May 2005 Fine 5000
29 July 2005 Fine 7500
29 July 2005 Fine 10000
15 September 2005 Fine 15000
09 December 2005 Fine 2000
09 December 2005 Fine 500
29 December 2005 Fine 20000
24 March 2006 Fine 30000
07 April 2006 Fine 10000
26 June 2006 Fine 50000
01 August 2006 Fine 10000
14 August 2006 Fine 5000
23 October 2006 Fine 5000
05 December 2006 Fine 1000
02 April 2007 Fine 5000
20 April 2007 Fine 10000
11 June 2007 Fine 5000
09 August 2007 Fine 1000
05 September 2007 Fine 5000
27 September 2007 Fine 15000
27 September 2007 Fine 105000
20 December 2007 Fine 15000
13 May 2008 Fine 7000
05 June 2008 Fine 10000
31 July 2008 Fine 6000
18 December 2008 Fine 25000
03 September 2009 Fine 10000

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thetaylors  
10:52 24/11/09
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Xmas 090 - when will PPP stop this     Post a reply to this message

09065173341 Hi,

here is the latest 090 advert being distributed by ads and email - aimed at children - and involving Oxygen8 -when will PPP stop this.

A personalised letter and toy from Santa for that special child, nephew or niece.

Order Line 09065173341
No Credit Card needed. You only pay for the call �1.50 per minute.

Each package will contain:

One of five different personalised letters depending on the child’s age and whether or not it is the child’s first Christmas or if the child also has a Christmas birthday.

The letter signed by either Santa, Mrs Claus or Rudolph

A personalised Certificate

A toy as chosen by the sender

These items will be delivered in a beautiful Christmas Red envelope, postmarked from the North Pole. The caller will have a list of toys to choose to send the recipient:

A Magic Painting Book

A Christmas Maze Puzzle

A brightly coloured Noise Rattle

Each caller will receive a unique reference number for any queries or edits after the call has finished. User Charges: �1.50 per minute, call lasts approximately 4 to 5 minutes. Note all user charges include VAT Terms & Conditions to Include: All toys subject to availability. Where a particular toy becomes unavailable a similar toy of the same or greater value will be substituted. Last letter posted according to Royal Mail delivery guidelines for 2nd class letters.

Service provided by North Downs Telecom Ltd., Heritage House, 79 High Street, Gravesend, Kent DA11 0BH

Customer Services 0844 448 1515
dinger  
20:51 18/11/09
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Re: SMS spam from +447719396675     Post a reply to this message

At 8:24 31/07/09, numberspy wrote:

No I dont misunderstand at all - I work with the ICO and PPP on many things. There is a memorandum of understanding being formed between them both but the ICO will not intervene if you received a SPAM SMS from a short code - That is outside of their remit so you are wasting your breath and your time with them. If the communication had come via text without a short code, such as a long mobile number, then they would intervene but only if it were non-chargeable. If its chargeable then PPP would look into it.

If the ICO were to get involved all they would do is write a letter and ask the company to stop sending you SMS and remove your number from their database. If they didnt then they would take enforcement action so dont get your hopes up with the ICO.

Another point - it is not chargeable to send a STOP message - It is free apart from whatever your network may charge and that is not the responsibility of the company sending the spam so lets not try and add sauce to the problem - there is no need.

So in relation to the above number that sent you this message here it appears to be a long and non chargeable number so PPP wont get involved - end of!


Had a response from the ICO. I am pleased to report that they took my view that this was a breach of Regulation 22, and have written to Antiphony reminding them of their obligations, and instructing them to take certain actions to prevent a recurrence.

That is what I set out to achieve. They had no reason to have my number which is both ex-directory and TPS registered, I have done all I can to ensure I am not bothered by this crud, and am angry that my number is being circulated, something that I may follow up on.

My view is that companies need to be stopped from spamming our phones by exploiting "loopholes" in any way possible. If the only means of achieving this end is by putting them to the inconvenience of dealing with the ICO, then that is what I will do.

It pays to stand your ground. This traffic is unwelcome and unwanted. We have a right to stop it. Its about time this worthless sector took the hint and ceased the spam. There needs to be far tighter controls on commercially sent SMS Messages including both "Normal" numbers and shortcodes for those companies using - or is that abusing? - the system.
FlameTV  
12:30 23/10/09
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Consumer champion Dominic Littlewood is back on the BBC!!!     Post a reply to this message

02075987210 Have you been treated unfairly by a company or organisation? Maybe you�ve tried complaining, but feel like you�re getting nowhere � or perhaps you don�t know where to begin?
Maybe you've been credit blacklisted through no fault of your own? Has a loan been sold on and the terms have changed leaving you out of pocket?
Dom wants to help you. Email me with details to [email protected] or call 0207 598 7210.
mavdo  
10:47 10/09/09
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08453445660 "Hi <name>, if you have loans, cards, finance pre April 07 get them legally written off, call 08453445660 or reply YES for callback. txtSTOP2optout"

Allegedly this is from Beneficial Claims.

I have never asked for this, I don't have old loans, and I always tick boxes (or untick them) for people to not pass on my details. Many people have tried to text stop to this number (according to other websites such as whocallsme.com) and have failed.
This message breaks rules on unsolicited electronic communications from the ICO, it also probably breaks financial rules from the FSA regarding trying to get people into IVAs or charging people to implement standard "statute barred" type legislation, and they are alleged to be breaking other rules (or skirting them) by charging people to arrange a loan for them and then never obtaining a loan saying that they were unable to (and did they even try?). There is even an allegation that they are the same company as (the ex) YES loans because they appear to share phone numbers.

Allegations above are made on the website below:
http://boards.thisismoney.co.uk/tim/threadnonInd.jsp?forum=98&thread=94854

I'd like to know how they got my number AND my name, tho I can't do that without calling them, and I can't report them to ICO without trying to stop this myself first. I think it could be a breach of the DPA.
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81777 My daughter foolishly sent a message asking for a horiscope to 81777 and started to receive messages back costing �1.50 a time. Over a couple of hours she accumulated a bill of over �100. I spoke to the company involved who said that they obeyed all the rules and did nothing wrong. I also phoned Phonepayplus but they say that there is nothing they can do. This 'service' is clearly a rip off and these companies that prey on vunerable people ought to be shut down. Although my daughter is over 18 she has learning difficulties and didn't really understand what she was doing.
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81777 My daughter foolishly sent a message asking for a horiscope to 81777 and started to receive messages back costing �1.50 a time. Over a couple of hours she accumulated a bill of over �100. I spoke to the company involved who said that they obeyed all the rules and did nothing wrong. I also phoned Phonepayplus but they say that there is nothing they can do. This 'service' is clearly a rip off and these companies that prey on vunerable people ought to be shut down. Although my daughter is over 18 she has learning difficulties and didn't really understand what she was doing.
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Recieved from +447876227712

Our records indicate you may be entitled to 3750 pounds compensation for the accident you had. To claim for free reply YES to thid msg. 2 opt out txtx STOP.US
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At 23:58 30/07/09, dinger wrote:
Re "Re: SMS spam from +447719396675" posted by numberspy at 9:26 30/07/09 ...

You seem to misunderstand my point that the ICO see a possibility here of proceeding against Antiphony under the Privacy in communications directive. I mentioned TPS registration as in indication that I have done all I can to flag up that I don't wish to receive unsolicited communications of any sort especially not from text scamming companies, and the ICO guy seemed to think that may help strengthen a case. Txt messages to this service are chargeable, it could be held that any text from this company is a marketing communication.

I don't see why I should have to pay to send a message opting out of something I never opted into in the first place. I want them penalised - its that simple. Hopefully the ICO will come through for me along with PhonepayPlus.

The interesting thing is that following a strongly worded letter to antiphony I had a call from one of their people - sadly I wasn't able to take the call following a recent operation, and I don't feel inclined to call a non geo number to discuss their scams.

Its a shame all networks don't provide a facility for customers to bar these scam texts. I DON'T want any short-code crud coming through to my phone. It is time that the networks took on board that I should have the choice to refuse any messages that are chargeable as a matter of right. of course some of the networks don't care as they get a cut from this while wringing their hands and pleading innocence - its time that loophole was closed off.

I want these spammers and scammers kept off of my number. I don't use shortcodes. WHY can I not bar them?


No I dont misunderstand at all - I work with the ICO and PPP on many things. There is a memorandum of understanding being formed between them both but the ICO will not intervene if you received a SPAM SMS from a short code - That is outside of their remit so you are wasting your breath and your time with them. If the communication had come via text without a short code, such as a long mobile number, then they would intervene but only if it were non-chargeable. If its chargeable then PPP would look into it.

If the ICO were to get involved all they would do is write a letter and ask the company to stop sending you SMS and remove your number from their database. If they didnt then they would take enforcement action so dont get your hopes up with the ICO.

Another point - it is not chargeable to send a STOP message - It is free apart from whatever your network may charge and that is not the responsibility of the company sending the spam so lets not try and add sauce to the problem - there is no need.

So in relation to the above number that sent you this message here it appears to be a long and non chargeable number so PPP wont get involved - end of!

It seems to me that the member has been quite clear that an enquiry to the ICO was met with a favourable response - Privacy in communications seems to encompass text messages - after all that is a communication - and if someone wants to try to bring these unsolicited text pests to heal by using that means then more power to them. Either way as they are reporting that the ICO said that they will look into it then I suggest the matter rests there until the ICO respond further - assuming they do. As or "adding sauce", ANY cost to the public to stop unsolicited texts is wrong - no matter who charges it. At the end of the day we should have the right to have unsolicited spam policed - chargeable or not. If nothing else, reports to the ICO at least highlight a problem exists that may need addressing or further legislation to rid us of this nuisance. I think for now this should rest as it is, I don't want to see some sort of flame war erupt between opposing view points - as you said you work with not for so you are not really able to speak for the ICO/PPP with full authority - it is just your opinion, the O/P was reporting information from a call so lets see what happens. - Moderator
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Re "Re: SMS spam from +447719396675" posted by numberspy at 9:26 30/07/09 ...

You seem to misunderstand my point that the ICO see a possibility here of proceeding against Antiphony under the Privacy in communications directive. I mentioned TPS registration as in indication that I have done all I can to flag up that I don't wish to receive unsolicited communications of any sort especially not from text scamming companies, and the ICO guy seemed to think that may help strengthen a case. Txt messages to this service are chargeable, it could be held that any text from this company is a marketing communication.

I don't see why I should have to pay to send a message opting out of something I never opted into in the first place. I want them penalised - its that simple. Hopefully the ICO will come through for me along with PhonepayPlus.

The interesting thing is that following a strongly worded letter to antiphony I had a call from one of their people - sadly I wasn't able to take the call following a recent operation, and I don't feel inclined to call a non geo number to discuss their scams.

Its a shame all networks don't provide a facility for customers to bar these scam texts. I DON'T want any short-code crud coming through to my phone. It is time that the networks took on board that I should have the choice to refuse any messages that are chargeable as a matter of right. of course some of the networks don't care as they get a cut from this while wringing their hands and pleading innocence - its time that loophole was closed off.

I want these spammers and scammers kept off of my number. I don't use shortcodes. WHY can I not bar them?
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Re "SMS spam from +447719396675" posted by Ant2009 at 17:45 17/07/09 ...

The TPS can accept the registration of mobile telephone numbers, however it is important to note that this will prevent the receipt of marketing voice calls but not SMS (text) messages. If you wish to stop receiving SMS marketing messages, please send an 'opt-out' request to the company involved.
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Re "69844 - Antiphony Ltd" posted by dinger at 14:17 15/07/09 ...

Just so you are aware registration with the TPS does NOT prevent marketing companies sending you text messages - This is the extract from the TPS site:

The TPS can accept the registration of mobile telephone numbers, however it is important to note that this will prevent the receipt of marketing voice calls but not SMS (text) messages. If you wish to stop receiving SMS marketing messages, please send an 'opt-out' request to the company involved.
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07719385424 07719385424
At 17:45 17/07/09, Ant2009 wrote:
Unsolicited text received yesterday:

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Our records indicate u maybe entitled to 5000 pounds in compensation for the Accident you had. To claim 4 free reply with CLAIM to this msg. 2 stop txt STOP


From:+447719396675
Date: 16/07/2009
Time: 12:46pm

My phone number is TPS registered and I haven't had any accidents! I like the bad grammar and the complete lack of company name - do they really expect people to think this is genuine?

Any idea where this came from?


This is an unsolicited electronic marketing campaign and as such falls under direct governance of the ICO. Not only is sending unsolicited messages illegal, they do not provide a company name, or address, which is against the rules. Unfortunately, for them to act you need to know who it is from.

There are many companies that are offering this service online (ie sending CLAIM to a given number). But no numbers match that provided.

You could try sending STOP, but that is like responding to junk mail - never advised.

I would report it to ICO using the online complaint form, and see if they can trace it. If you get any more and they slip up (just as a loan company did for me) you might be able to update the case with a company name.

The same message has been seen arriving from 07719385424, 07542120021, 07719396672, 07719396644, 07719396631, 07797800425, 07598933113, 07751739661, 07957427718, 07957427637, 07542905828, 07787646936, 07849031796, 07768151835, 07787044999, 07542119158, 07542120417, 07719369570, and 07719396604
(source - whocallsme.com)
Ensure you mention this when complaining to the ICO, it adds serious weight to your complaint.

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Unsolicited text received yesterday:

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Our records indicate u maybe entitled to 5000 pounds in compensation for the Accident you had. To claim 4 free reply with CLAIM to this msg. 2 stop txt STOP


From:+447719396675
Date: 16/07/2009
Time: 12:46pm

My phone number is TPS registered and I haven't had any accidents! I like the bad grammar and the complete lack of company name - do they really expect people to think this is genuine?

Any idea where this came from?
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Had 2 unsolicited Premium rate SMS messages from this number today

The first arrived Just before 2pm
Quote:
Welcome! Please reply with your AGE and GENDER to begin. e.g 24M

Second message 20 mins later
Quote:
Sexy Singles are waiting for you! Text your AGE followed by your GENDER as wither M or F E.G.23F. For gay men text your AGE followed by a G. e.g.23G.

Stop command sent at 14.20 but no response so far.
Have just made 2 on-line reports to Phonepayplus. Im not spending money calling Antiphony, I will be putting my demand for a refund in writing to them, with the threat of action in the small claims court if necessary. I am TPS registered and do not subscribe to any premium rate SMS services.

Also had an interesting conversation with the Information Commissioners Office, who seem inclined to treat this as a "marketing call" and as my number is TPS registered, the guy I spoke to feels that it falls within their remit as a breach of the Privacy in Communcations Directive.

*Edit* I just looked back at my first post here over 2 years ago, that was about sms spam from this company.
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07033394449 Re "" posted by warweezil at 12:55 11/06/09 ...

http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Calls.aspx/070/m

http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/07033394449
http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/07033356211
http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/07033331735
http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/07033333198
http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/07033373127
http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/07033314083
http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/07033365411
http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/07033351707
http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/07033337437
http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/07033327555
http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/070333/2

9360 THE LONDON GAZETTE TUESDAY 2 JUNE 2009

CHEERS INTERNATIONAL TELECOM LIMITED
Notice is hereby given that Meetings of the Members and Creditors of Cheers International Telecom Limited (in Liquidation) will be held at 10.00 am and 10.30 am respectively, on Thursday 2 July 2009 at the offices of SFP, 9 Ensign House, Admirals Way, Marsh Wall, London E14 9XQ.

so if the useless ******** at Phonepayplus decide to 'fine' them (again) and order refunds for the victims they will have to stand in line at the Liquidators.
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At 17:47 10/06/09, mavdo wrote:
They say they'll disconnect them immediately if regulations are broken. They say that....
I had two separate operators of Cheers lines try to pull this one on me recently, I didn't try calling back as I am very aware of this Fraud (lets call it for what it is). I chose not to rely on Cheers, but went the Phonepayplus and lodged formal complaints about both numbers, some weeks later both complaints were upheld.
Quote:
Adjudication: The case went before a tribunal for adjudication and its decision was that the service was in breach of the Code of Practice. Due to the nature of the breaches, the Tribunal imposed the following sanctions.
A formal Repremand A fine of �20,000 A bar on the service and all numbers providing access to the service unless and until the service is considered to be compliant by PhonepayPlus or for a period of 12 months whichever is longer. The Tribunal doubted whether the service could ever be compliant. The service provider is required to seek compliance advice regarding the future use or allocation of premium rate numbers which provide access to the service in question. The Tribunal ordered that claims for refunds are to be paid by the service provider for the full amount spent by users, except where there is good cause to believe that such claims are not valid.

Now apart from the sanctions imposed on those operating these lines, (and I doubt if the fine was ever paid) I would hope that such actions will cause the regulators to watch the activities both of those using these numbers and the company leasing them out. I would shed no tears about this whole thing being closed down by the 07xxx leased numbers being withdrawn.

I wonder why it is that we can see the common sense in this but OFCOM cant? Maybe has something to do with the money involved in this whole disreputable area. As ever it seems that with this regulator the interests of consumers lag a very long way behind the interests of big business.
(My Personal Opinion)
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07033370040
At 16:45 10/06/09, Phonetic wrote:
07033370040 Hi, would like to know if anyone else has had a mobile phone call from 07033370040 as I had a missed call yesterday ...charged �2. I contacted Virgin ... they could or would not help me. Does anyone know if it is possible to trace these numbers and if possible how.... JG


This is the missed call scam. Advice was released by ICSTIS in Dec 2006 on exactly this:
http://www.phonepayplus.org.uk/upload/070.pdf

When you called, you were actually connected, but to something that sounded like the engaged tone, and this is nothing more than fraud. It has been going on for years. The scam has been reported on watchdog on the BBC, and in many forums
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=180976

The people to contact are PayPhonePlus and Ofcom.

Ofcom don't act for individual complaints, but they will act if sufficient complaints are received. This one has been called CLI dumping, but doesn't have a specific category on their page. You could contact ofcom on 020 7981 3040 or 0300 123 3333 to ask how to complain about this as it has been a regular complaint before. The acceptable use for 070 numbers has clearly been breached. This is found here (http://www.ofcom.org.uk/telecoms/ioi/numbers/num_070_guide#acc070)

Previous scams with 090 numbers (eg http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3499337.stm) were reported to ICSTIS (now payphoneplus), and some 070 numbers are now regulated by PPP (I quote "PhonepayPlus regulates 070 numbers if they 'offer' premium rate-style services and the cost of the call exceeds 10p per minute. ". This must be of this type because it charged you �2.

In terms of who owns this number, the website http://www.magsys.co.uk/telecom/codelook.asp says they are owned by Cheers international (frequently hit by 070 scams), and the charge is local rate plus 49ppm from landlines. Mobiles will cost MUCH more as they add on their own markup which can be HUGE.

To complain to cheers international, who say that "Cheers International ensures that all OFCOM guidelines and regulations are strictly adhered to", go here
http://www.cheersinternational.com/ and follow the links to Contact, then "complaints click here" at the top of the page, and fill in some details at the bottom (if you trust them). They say they'll disconnect them immediately if regulations are broken. They say that....
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07033370040 Hi, would like to know if anyone else has had a mobile phone call from 07033370040 as I had a missed call yesterday and I know I should have checked out this number first but I was not thinking and called it back and the number was engaged so did not have a chance to find out whom it was and when I checked my pay as you go charges found I had been charged �2. I contacted Virgin asking them if they knew the identity of the caller and their reply was they did not know other than it was an 'event' whatever that was supposed to mean, so they could or would not help me. Does anyone know if it is possible to trace these numbers and if possible how.... JG
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81192 Re "Re: unknown text charges" posted by mavdo at 12:17 07/04/09 ...

PayPhonePlus now have information on 81192. Also, the complaints link in the last message is now invalid (to access, go to www.payphoneplus.org.uk , enter in 81192 in the number checker, and follow the complaint link on that page).

81192 it seems, is wholey used by BT. It *is* a premium message service, and they can include premium services such as ringtones if they so wish. Costs vary by service (so 81192 could be free for certain things).

Contact details for the number are
BT Ignite, NSC Marketgate, Bond Street, Bristol, BS1 3TD
0117 920 8844

So, BT own and run the service that is charging you, but refuse to put you in contact with anyone who can get it stopped. Interesting? Personally, I'd make them aware of this fact, and if they still can't help say that you'd like to leave.

A company that charges it's own customers without the ability to stop it unless you contact the right person, or the ability to tell you who that person is, is pretty much committing theft in my opinion.
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